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Boat Registration from AZ to CA, and so back to AZ

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First, let me get this off my chest... Fuck California.

Second...

Both of my boats are registered in CA. Ane was registered in AZ last year, only I switched over to CA thinking I wouldn't get a luxury revenue enhancement neb. Well, I did. The other boat, has been registered CA it's entire life.

I'd similar to transfer them both to AZ. I have to do it before the end of the year in order to avoid paying sales tax again for 2016, and then I plan to just practice it earlier this season. Anyhow, should I expect any bug from CA or the counties they are registered in (one LA and i OC) if I try to take them into AZ? Would information technology be wise to "sell" them both to my relative or friend and have them annals them in AZ, then transfer them back in my name afterward?

Trailers would both stay registered in CA. Would information technology be a red flag if I didn't transfer buying of them to the new gunkhole owner?

I get two of these bills a year and they exceed what AZ not resident fees would be.

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What was the luxury tax neb? We ended up moving our boats to ca equally the not resident az fee ended up existence like $325 a year. At present that my dad lives in Havasu were going to switch back equally it will be much cheaper
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What was the luxury tax nib? We concluded up moving our boats to ca as the non resident az fee concluded up being like $325 a year. Now that my dad lives in Havasu were going to switch back as information technology will be much cheaper

Both luxury tax bills are effectually $220. My registration fees are $102 after the mussel fees. Did you know that if you purchase and register your boat in CA in an odd number yr, that the fees are nearly double? One gunkhole is $37 and the other is $65. How stupid.

Then it's a total of $542 to keep them in CA and it'due south a total of $481 to annals them in AZ. I aslo would not have to sport the extra mussle decals. Why doesn't CA just make two different decals? One fresh and one salt? :rolleyes

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Doesn't matter where the boat is registered, it can exist registered Ca, stored in Az and no revenue enhancement, or reg in Az, stored in Ca (if they knew) and you withal take to pay the revenue enhancement. That is how some of the counties are. If you take a storage unit in Az where the boats stay, then you send in a copy of your storage nib. No need to transfer possessor, just "motility" both boats to Az reg, and give Ca the new reg and allow them know they are "stored" in Az.
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The way I was told is the boat MUST exist reg where it is USED more oft (51%). If you lot boat more in Lake Mead reg. in NV.
Gunkhole more in havasu reg. in AZ.
If you lot don't use it in calif 51% or more then why reg in CA.
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My boat is registered in CA, still stored full time in Havasu. Submitted forms years ago to SD county and got a note no luxury revenue enhancement will be required since boat is stored in Az.
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I feel similar I get i% more respect with the law enforcement in AZ with my gunkhole registration tag being in AZ.
I'm certain it is mental thing merely you lot never know .
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Both luxury taxation bills are around $220. My registration fees are $102 after the mussel fees. Did you know that if you buy and register your boat in CA in an odd number twelvemonth, that the fees are nearly double? One gunkhole is $37 and the other is $65. How stupid.

So information technology'south a total of $542 to keep them in CA and it'due south a full of $481 to register them in AZ. I aslo would not have to sport the extra mussle decals. Why doesn't CA just make two different decals? One fresh and 1 salt? :rolleyes


You are looking to go through all the hassle of moving registration. Running the risk of getting rolled by LEO towing with CA trailer tags, and AZ gunkhole tags for a savings of $61?

I'm not busting your balls, simply reducing my price from $542 down to $481 doesn't seem worth the problem to me.

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You are looking to become through all the hassle of moving registration. Running the risk of getting rolled past LEO towing with CA trailer tags, and AZ gunkhole tags for a savings of $61?

I'm not busting your balls, simply reducing my cost from $542 downwardly to $481 doesn't seem worth the trouble to me.


Why would it matter what is on the trailer? As long as the truck and trailer take CA plates... and they match the CA commuter'southward license.

My gunkhole is registered in AZ as a not-resident, and I recently changed my AZ plates on the trailer to CA plates. I was more worried about getting pulled over with an AZ trailer and CA truck.

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Doesn't matter where the boat is registered, it can exist registered Ca, stored in Az and no taxation, or reg in Az, stored in Ca (if they knew) and y'all still have to pay the tax. That is how some of the counties are. If you have a storage unit in Az where the boats stay, then you transport in a re-create of your storage bill. No need to transfer owner, only "move" both boats to Az reg, and give Ca the new reg and permit them know they are "stored" in Az.

My boat is registered in CA, however stored full fourth dimension in Havasu. Submitted forms years ago to SD county and got a note no luxury tax will be required since gunkhole is stored in Az.

Wow. That seems rather easy. I just ship in proof of my storage fees paid? That seems easy. ...But like Coolcrzin said, Doesn't the gunkhole have to be registered where information technology is used most of the time?

Yous are looking to get through all the hassle of moving registration. Running the risk of getting rolled by LEO towing with CA trailer tags, and AZ boat tags for a savings of $61?

I'chiliad not busting your balls, merely reducing my price from $542 down to $481 doesn't seem worth the trouble to me.


Similar Advantage1 said, they can't say anything about the boat, considering it's not using the road.
I feel like I become 1% more respect with the law enforcement in AZ with my boat registration tag being in AZ.
I'm certain information technology is mental thing but you never know .

I hold. :thumbup:
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Wow. That seems rather piece of cake. I just send in proof of my storage fees paid? That seems easy. ...But like Coolcrzin said, Doesn't the boat accept to be registered where information technology is used most of time:

Read the back of the tax form and it explains what needs to be done.
I boat the Havasu surface area of the Colorado river and you tin can argue that is CA or AZ.

With that said, thinking of moving to AZ registration (not-resident).

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My boat is registered in CA, however stored total time in Havasu. Submitted forms years agone to SD canton and got a note no luxury tax volition exist required since boat is stored in Az.

If you are doing this I would really similar to know how? I own a house in Parker and tell them its stored in Parker on their form 100% of the time and they however transport the lux tax every year. I called them and they said if you are registered in Ca. then you pay no matter where it is stored then any assistance getting around that would be appreciated. Understand the merely bill I cold produce them would be my holding taxes I would assume just they told me otherwise.

Thank you,

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I am not sure if this helps or you can do this. When I lived in Vegas. My gunkhole was 55 bucks to register and I stored it in Parker, az. Which they didn't know , they jus wanted the money. Might want to look into Nevada ?

They accuse by length and its done through the fish and game dept.

The trailer is washed through DMV. To split places and having naught to do with each other. :)

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Last yr I transferred both the gunkhole and trailer to AZ when i purchased information technology. Former boat had ca registration and had to pay the luxury taxation bs even though it was stored in Parker.

Haven't had an upshot with AZ plates on the trailer and ca plates on the truck. Why is it an issue if its a non resident registration and the boat is stored in Parker and only used in AZ?

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If you are doing this I would really like to know how? I own a house in Parker and tell them its stored in Parker on their form 100% of the time and they yet send the lux tax every year. I chosen them and they said if you are registered in Ca. then you pay no thing where it is stored so any help getting effectually that would be appreciated. Empathise the only nib I cold produce them would exist my belongings taxes I would assume but they told me otherwise.

Thanks,


Seems like a hassle with that luxury revenue enhancement. Drop the CA gunkhole reg and get AZ numbers as a non-resident.
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PERSONAL PROPERTY Taxation, not a luxury tax; luxury tax was repealed well-nigh xx years ago.

Personal property tax, which is actually a Land tax administered by each county, I think it's 1.ane% of the value. Airplanes, business equipment, all personal, UNSECURED taxes. As opposed to SECURED property taxes (real manor).

Merely had to get that off my chest. :p

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And you better believe the time and headache you lot will spend sorting it out....priceless :thumbup:
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If you are doing this I would really similar to know how? I own a house in Parker and tell them its stored in Parker on their grade 100% of the time and they still transport the lux tax every year. I called them and they said if you are registered in Ca. then you pay no matter where it is stored and then any help getting around that would exist appreciated. Sympathize the only nib I cold produce them would be my property taxes I would assume but they told me otherwise.

Thanks,


Did this dorsum in 2009.
Beneath is what the document stated. I think each county is different, and so you will need to cheque.

*A vessel registered with Ca DMV or USCG is subject field to holding taxes in San Diego County unless the owner provides other testify indicating that the property is located and kept permanently in another land or county. Such testify is one of more of the following:

1 - Copy of current vessel registration in another state or county taking place prior to Jan i of the current year
2 - Copy of current tax bill for vessel in another state
3 - Proof of current ownership or lease of domicile in the location where the vessel is stated to reside
4 - Copy of current slip fees or marina contract that indicates the vessel is permanently located exterior California
5 - Copy of vessel insurance premium. The premium must bespeak the insured location of vessel

I sent evidence of ii and 5 and got a letter of the alphabet back saying that is appropriate and no taxes would exist assessed unless the boat started residing in Ca again.

DMV paperwork has vessel located at my storage unit in Az. Since Ca considers Colorado river usage as CA information technology qualifies to be registered in Ca.

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One thing to remember Dennis is if your CF #'s are painted on and then y'all will be paying to have them changed on top of the savings.
That being said I have had my boat reg in AZ every bit non res since 2004 with no problems.
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I matter to recollect Dennis is if your CF #'s are painted on then you will exist paying to take them changed on top of the savings.
That being said I have had my gunkhole reg in AZ as non res since 2004 with no bug.
Me too since 2005
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One matter to remember Dennis is if your CF #'s are painted on so you volition be paying to have them changed on pinnacle of the savings.
That being said I accept had my gunkhole reg in AZ every bit non res since 2004 with no bug.

Good phone call. I take decals on both boats.
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So should I put them in a siblings name and transfer them or move them over myself?

I simply read both tax bills and they both country that I am paying a tax because records prove that I ain these, nothing to do with registration. So I'm thinking that I should sell them to my sibling. This would exist piece of cake, just mail service in the release of titles, and send in pinks via post to AZGF and wait for the new tags to come in his name. There'due south no sales tax, because they would be going to AZ. Then wait a little while and practise a transfer in AZ back into my name.

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So should I put them in a siblings name and transfer them or move them over myself?

I just read both tax bills and they both state that I am paying a tax because records show that I ain these, nil to do with registration. And so I'm thinking that I should sell them to my sibling. This would be like shooting fish in a barrel, only mail in the release of titles, and send in pinks via mail to AZGF and look for the new tags to come in his name. There'south no sales tax, because they would exist going to AZ. Then wait a little while and do a transfer in AZ back into my name.

You make Apple tree seem stand :D

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You make Apple seem stand upward :D

I am just trying to prevent the regime from STEALING more of my hard earned money.
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Concluding twelvemonth I transferred both the boat and trailer to AZ when i purchased it. One-time boat had ca registration and had to pay the luxury revenue enhancement bs even though it was stored in Parker.

Oasis't had an issue with AZ plates on the trailer and ca plates on the truck. Why is information technology an effect if its a non resident registration and the boat is stored in Parker and but used in AZ?

As long every bit the trailer NEVER comes to CA its no effect. The ruby flag will be an AZ trailer behind a CA truck with a CA DL. Boatcop explained this years back. My understanding is that CA REQUIRES all vehicles owned by a CA resident that impact CA roads to by reg'd in CA.

Probably ain't gonna happen but he went on to say that the boat trailer could exist impounded (and I suppose the gunkhole also since you won't take a manner to haul your boat any other way).

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Just dispute the fuggin amount of the tax. Transport them some lowball boat trader comps and telephone call it a day.
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X2 with MilkMoney about Nevada. My registration is $55 and they don't accept a resident vs. non-resident.
Register the boat where you use it. I used to store my boat in Bullhead. Boat and trailer reg in AZ, I lived in CA. If I ever got pulled over but tell the cop your bringing it dorsum habitation to register. I'yard certain your not required to change registration before you move information technology.
When I moved to Nevada, I had a Ca truck, Az gunkhole trailer with Nv boat reg. I've had my truck with Oregon plates again with Nv/Az boat/trailer. Now Nv truck and boat, Az trailer. Never been asked about it in over 8 years.
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X2 with MilkMoney near Nevada. My registration is $55 and they don't have a resident vs. not-resident.
Register the boat where y'all utilize it. I used to store my boat in Bullhead. Boat and trailer reg in AZ, I lived in CA. If I ever got pulled over just tell the cop your bringing it back home to register. I'1000 sure your not required to change registration earlier you move it.
When I moved to Nevada, I had a Ca truck, Az gunkhole trailer with Nv boat reg. I've had my truck with Oregon plates again with Nv/Az boat/trailer. Now Nv truck and boat, Az trailer. Never been asked about information technology in over eight years.

Just if you lot are moving it, you are required to obtain a permit. I talked with my local California AAA. They gave me this:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/reg_hdbk/ch25/ch25_3

It is a one fourth dimension movement permit so you can legally bring the AZ plated trailer to CA to register (as in my example). It was around $twenty. Yous get pulled over and you are covered. :thumbup: AAA rocks!

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Be carefull with the insurance on anything, getting complicated.
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Go Nevada, but y'all have to accept them to Vegas to go them transferred
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Arizona is cheaper to register than California. Don't speed, and yous will never get pulled over in California and it will not matter.

Besides, I idea all you California ballers were residents of Incline Hamlet, Nevada? :D

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There is a difference between tax abstention and tax evasion. :D

Lol:thumbup:
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Lol I had my truck reg. in Idaho while living in Vegas.
Had my rv reg. in Idaho and it stayed in Parker , Cali side.

Had my gunkhole and gunkhole trailer reg in nv and information technology was stored in Parker , az side.

I do everything in my ability to save a buck anywhere I can. :)

All this being done living in Vegas [emoji106]

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I am only trying to prevent the government from STEALING more of my hard earned money.

Good luck with that. I am so pissed at this irs bullshit that I told the accountant yesterday that Commonwealth of australia or New Zealand looked adept [emoji107]
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I live in San Diego and I'thousand most to buy a 1989 19' ski boat in AZ. Both the boat and trailer are tagged/registered in AZ till 2021.
I will haul it to San Diego and mainly keep it in San Diego. I practice have a sister living in AZ where she has plenty of storage space when needed or for when I decide to use it in AZ.
Being a newbie to the boating globe, what would exist my best option to relieve coin on registration/tags on both the boat and trailer assuming I take the option of using my sister's habitation address in AZ, only keeping the new toy primarily in San Diego? I obviously have my pickup truck registered in CA likewise as just a CA DL.
Thanks.
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